Lauren Good: Zoe, you had vegan pizza the other night. You said it was great.
Zoe Shaffer: i did I did, and I read a really, really terrible article by Annie Lowry about dairy farming in the Atlantic, and it radicalized me for at least 24 hours. I was on oat milk. Thanks, I don’t want a reward.
Lauren Good: Mike, how long have you been vegan?
Michael Culver: I don’t know. 800 years
Lauren Good: Well our resident longtime guy on this show.
Michael Culver: I’ve been fully vegetarian for about five years, and since I was a teenager. But look, as a lifelong adherent to a plant-based lifestyle, I know it doesn’t work for everyone. It was more than a joke. What I am actually going to recommend to all my listeners is my favorite television program about immortality. It is called true blood. It’s an HBO show about vampires in the South.
Zoe Shaffer: This is a documentary about real blood boys.
Michael Culver: This is awesome.
Lauren Good: true story true story No, it’s a script.
Michael Culver: It’s campy, which is the best thing about it because it takes itself seriously most of the time, and then it doesn’t. It’s full of sex and violence and humor. It’s a lot of fun. Fantastic performances from all the principal actors, and there are a dozen people in the show who are really, really great. I highly recommend you go back and have a look true blood. It was originally on television, what, 15 years ago? Something like that. It feels like forever ago.
Lauren Good: You know what I love most about this recommendation is that it enables me to carry over one of my favorite phrases from our last podcast, GadgetLab, which is, “Love a good Skarsgård.”
Michael Culver: “Love a good Skarsgård.”
Lauren Good: Longtime listeners will appreciate.
Michael Culver: This is the tall and handsome Alexander Skarsgård.
Lauren Good: As a vampire. As a sexy vampire.
Michael Culver: As a vampire named Eric. yes This is what I got.
Lauren Good: Thanks for breaking the mold, Mike.
Michael Culver: You are welcome. Well, that’s our show today. We’ll be back next week with an episode that looks at Silicon Valley’s long association with libertarianism. Thanks for listening to Uncanny Valley. If you liked what you heard today, be sure to follow our show and rate it on your favorite podcast app. If you want to contact us with any questions, comments, or suggestions, you can write to us at uncannyvalley@WIRED.com. We can’t wait to hear from you. Today’s show is produced by Kiana Moghadam, the episode was mixed by Amarlal at Macrosound. Jordan Bell is our executive producer. Thanks also to executive producer Stephanie Cariucci. Condé Nast’s head of global audio is Chris Bannon. We will be back next week forever.